Monday, August 29, 2016

Cincinnati Catholic Pastor: "Are these people for effing real ?"

"When I have my own parish, I will do what our Archbishop has told us to do, 
but for now our pastor has told me that I can't use the sanctus bells and 
I can't say the prayer for vocations on Sunday", 
as Archbishop Schnurr has directed all priests to do.

Have you ever had a new pastor assigned to your church that made you question your faith ? If not,
then God bless you. If you have, well I hope you are able to witness a happy ending.

My family and I are members of a Catholic Parish in Bridgetown, Cincinnati, Ohio. Over the past 3 and a half years our parish has gone through the change of Life and coupled with the death of my father, it is safe to say these are the most trying years of my life.

Please click the e-mails below to view them at a readable size. The correspondence was received in response to a letter I sent to Bishop Joseph Binzer. Most of the time when I send a note to his Eminence, I copy the priests in our parish. I do that because as a father, I was taught that it is common courtesy to keep all parties informed; more or less so that they don't think you are usurping their authority and I have found that most of the time I am providing those individuals with information that they are unaware of. For the rest of the story please skip down to the letter I am sending to Bishop Binzer.

* Please note, I have been mailing Bishop Binzer since 2009. He has asked me to call him Joe, we agreed I would go as far as Father. I have provided Bishop Binzer with a cheat sheet so that he can fill in the blanks; as I have left out the names to make His Eminence's job less stressful.

Catholic Pastor Says:
Are these people for effing real? "

Catholic Pastor Says:
"This guy has been blocked as spam because he is nuts. Who sent this to me?"


         As you know I am a parishioner at --1--. A year ago I sent out information regarding a story that came out of Portland. Here and Here. I guess it was important because our site was picked up by Pewsitter, a large Catholic news Blog. We were pretty stoked, because every time they pick up a story many people are driven to our site. We sent a few links out to --2--. As you can read above, he was less than impressed. Though our facts were well researched, truthful they were, --2-- seemed quite perturbed that we would presume to send them his way. My family and I were taken aback since we had a great relationship with --3--, our "priest in training".

Why do we bother to ask for your help with this rude e-mail?
We are asking for help, because these e-mails display a pattern.

When someone refuses to speak to me, or treats me like a second class citizen, I look to discover why.
You see my wife and I have been members at --1-- for more than 25 years. We have 5 kids. The oldest 3 have served as acolytes, lay distributors and taken communion to the sick. My youngest daughters would also like to participate as their siblings had, though we have decided that goings on at our parish need to change for that to happen.

What do I mean "goings on" ?
To begin to understand you can read my story about "The New Jerusalem Community".
Once you understand the type of progressive community TNJC was you will begin to understand the rest of the story.

If a person like --2-- had spent any time with TNJC and believed in progressive catholic-ism in the way they did, then the rest of the story becomes quite less shocking.

When --1-- was changing pastors, and --4-- had assumed the helm for 3 months until --2-- was appointed Pastor of the 2 Bridgetown Parishes, he made quite a splash. On the very first morning Mass he celebrated, --4-- stripped the alter of its adornments; the alter had been decorated in that way for over 4 years; alter candles, crucifix and sanctus bells. --5-- had brought our bells back into service on the anniversary of our Parish. He asked the Parish for input as to whether we wanted the bells to remain in use at Mass after the anniversary. The Parish liked the change so much that he continued the use of sanctus bells at consecration for the remainder of his tenure. --6-- and --7-- also used the sanctus bells. The only time that --1-- was without sanctus bells was from 1983 and into the middle 90's; during the tenure of --8-- and --4--. Following the sacking of our alter --4-- gave homilies where he praised the author of "the color purple", asked the students at an all school Mass to stand on their pew, in order to get a different perspective and in a separate all school Mass asked the children to OM. 

In addition to all this, --4-- forbade the recitation of the Bishops prayer for vocations

Why would --4-- feel comfortable defying his Bishop ? 
When Archbishop Schnurr was appointed to the diocese of Cincinnati --4-- referred to him, in a conversation with my parents, as "a climber ".

Jump forward to our current Pastor who took over --1-- in the summer of 2013.
What could I possibly have done to tick him off so bad ?
My kids asked him when would our parish get our sanctus bells back ?
He answered, "--4-- stole them, I guess we'll use them when he returns them"; isn't that hilarious ?
Seriously; telling that to a then 4th grader and a kindergartner; the 2 who wanted to serve.
Finally, --2-- told --3-- that "the good lad",that's how --2-- refers to --3--, could say  Archbishop Schnurr's prayer for vocations on the week days, just not on the weekends; WHY !?
I think the answer is fairly obvious; the majority of the Parish participates in Mass on the weekend.

Well why am I writing now ?

We have a new priest at --1--. His name is --9--.
--2-- mentioned in Mass a few weeks ago that since old number 9 is older he could be trusted more to take care of the parish. Old number 9 was going to be allowed to take 3 of the 4 monthly Sunday's.
I got so excited that I stopped at the back of church to ask --9-- if he would be saying the Bishop's prayer for vocation's and would he be using the sanctus bells; I explained about my daughters.
The response, "I will say Archbishop Schnurr's Prayer for Vocations when I am pastor and I will use sanctus bells when I am pastor, but until then I have to abide by what --2-- has directed me to do".
I said, "excuse me" ? Number 9 said, "When I have my own parish, I will do what our Archbishop has told us to do, but for now --2-- has told me that I can't use the sanctus bells and I can't say the prayer for vocations on Sunday", as Archbishop Schnurr has directed all priests to do.

What do you see going on here ?

--1-- has lost a substantial amount of families; I am more than happy to give you the numbers.
The loss in families has come over the last 3 years; during --2-- tenure.
Bishop Schneider agrees with Archbishop Schnurr, in that, more is required not less. His talk is here.

Last week --2-- came down the isle into the church to the enchanting sounds of bongo and tambourine. Last week the Mass was started from behind the alter, unaided by an acolyte. Last week we did not recite the Creed. Last week we did not say the Bishop's Prayer for Vocations. Last week
--2-- needed to go to the credence table for a shot of hand sanitizer.  I guess distributing the body and blood of Christ can somehow put you at risk for germs; if you haven't seen an Orthodox Communion Service click Here; they are surely not afraid of germs; they distribute His Body and Blood on a spoon. Last week the Chalice and Ciborium were not purified during Mass; proper care of the sacred vessels Here. I have read what is required in the GIRM in other areas of the Mass that concern us.

Taken one at a time each gripe of mine can seem petty. Taken as a whole with the entire back story a pattern is easy to see.

This week old number 9 was able to start the Mass with an acolyte, say the creed, purify the dishes and preside at a Mass that didn't sound like a hootenanny. What do you think --9-- thinks when he elevates the body and blood knowing something  is lacking. As an Alter Christus it is his Mass.
What must --9-- think when he knows that the Archbishop has asked him to pray for vocations and he does not, because of what can not be described in any other way as a Pastor making a power play.

What happens when --2-- is gone ? What damage will have been done ? We still live across the street.
It's our Parish too. Will Parishioners come back ?

Father, what we are asking is that you speak with our Pastor. We are asking that, if --9-- desires to use our sanctus bells, our consecration bells that have been in service most of the life of our parish, 
if --9-- wants to train our acolytes how to make Mass more special for everyone then shouldn't he be permitted to do so ? If --9-- wants to abide by the wishes of our Archbishop and recite the prayer for vocations during all Masses, shouldn't he be permitted to do so ?

We appreciate anything you can do to straighten out this situation. We have made numerous attempts to speak to --2--, we even invited him to dinner twice; we received no reply.

Thanks for all you do. Today, on this The Passion of John the Baptist, is my birthday.

Per your rules in the Archdiocese of Cincinnati:
You have our permission to speak with anyone mentioned in this letter and on the footnote card.
We are not opposed to you speaking to whoever you please.
I am putting a signed copy of this into today's mail.


Sunday, August 28, 2016

The New Jerusalem Community


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This is an information page about a group in Cincinnati called The New Jerusalem Community.
This page also has information about Richard Rohr and John Quigley; they claim to be priests.

New Jerusalem Community

745 Derby Avenue
CincinnatiOH 45232 

Categorized under Catholic Church. Our records show it was established in 1971 and incorporated in Ohio. Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of unknown and employs a staff of approximately 1 to 4.

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New Jerusalem Community is perhaps the best known intentional community in Cincinnati, in at least in religious circles, located near Spring Grove Cemetery. It was founded by the well-known author, lecturer, and Franciscan priest Fr. Richard Rohr. He served as its leader from its beginning in 1971 until 1985. Richard Rohr went on to found the Center for Action and Contemplation and The Rohr Institute in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The New Jerusalem Community continues to be a Catholic lay group of families seeking to live out the Christian gospel in community with each other, with the working class neighborhood in which they live and with the wider world though mission projects. Currently there are about 110 adult members of the community and 45 children.

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Fr. Richard Rohr is giving a retreat for 

and New Ways Ministry is "a gay-positive ministry of advocacy and justice for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) Catholics, and reconciliation within the larger Christian and civil communities."

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Enright Ridge Urban Eco-Village, is an unusual example of an eco-village working well in an urban setting located in East Price Hill.  Founded by Jim and Eileen Schenk, the Eco-Village residents employ various sustainability practices, such as energy-efficient homes, rain water diversion, and community gardening.  Members’ back yards and common areas support a CSA, which serves 50 families in the Price Hill area.  For more on Enright Ridge, go to and their local wiki page. 
New Jerusalem Communityis located near Spring Grove Cemetery, and is perhaps the best known intentional community in Cincinnati, at least in religious circles. It was founded by the well-known author, lecturer, and Franciscan priest Fr. Richard Rohr. He has served as its leader from its beginning in 1971 until 1985. Richard Rohr went on to found the Center for Action and Contemplation and The Rohr Institute in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The New Jerusalem Community continues to be a Catholic lay group of families seeking to live out the Christian gospel in community with each other, with the working class neighborhood in which they live and with the wider world though mission projects. Currently there are about 110 adult members of the community and 45 children. For more information, check out their local wiki page. 
The Mac House,Opened in 2010, the McGregor (Mac) House in Mount Auburn was designed to serve its residential members while it serves the neighborhood. It provides affordable housing for people who work in the non-profit sector devoting their lives to the betterment of society. It also is open to those “who truly have the heart to serve others living in a simple way.” A livingroom and other common spaces are shared by the 10 adult residents, who spend time in the community helping both adults and children, organizing games, participating in block parties and more. There also are non-residential opportunities to join this community. For more information, go to and their local wiki page.
Walnut Hills Fellowship,Walnut Hills Fellowship is a small group of inner-city neighbors living on the east side of Cincinnati. Organized in January of 2007, the community gathers for weekly dinners, which provide both physical nourishment and spiritual encouragement to the group--it sees itself as a “congregation.” The community provides affordable housing, academic support, personal counseling, work support and prison visitation. For more information, email , call (513) 404-2431, or visit their local wiki page. 
Vineyard Central,This group in Norwood is a church and an intentional community with shared gardens, its own cafe and community activities.  For more information, go to and their local wiki page.

I posted the picture and link below because it gives more information about what the New Jerusalem Community is like. The Emmaus Community claims to have modeled itself after TNJC.

Economics of Compassion is a strong grassroots interest in an alternative economics has led to the formation of a new group in the Cincinnati region.  The Economics of Compassion Initiative of Greater Cincinnati (ECI) grew from the ground up, as more and more groups and individuals indicated strong interest in supporting alternative economic systems, ones in which workers and owners share benefit, in which the community is enhanced and not harmed—ones marked by justice, community and relationship.
Inspired by the teachings of well-known theologian Rev. Dr. Walter Brueggemann, as well as the insights on community offered by consultant and author Peter Block, hundreds of people have gathered at various venues throughout the city to explore what it would mean to have a more ethical economic system, an economics of compassion, in our area.
The genesis of the interest was a Trinity Institute Series on building an ethical economy, offered at Christ Church Cathedral in 2010. The cathedral is now led by the Very Rev. Dean Gail Greenwell The message from this series was shared with the Cincinnati Interfaith Committee for Worker Justice, a United Church of Christ clergy group and others.  The considerable interest generated led to a 2011 event at St. John’s UCC in Newport, KY.  That meeting, drawing people from a wide range of congregations and social service groups, was followed in 2013 by three economics of compassion events at Christ Church Cathedral and Xavier University, attended by 240-250 persons each.
Responding to this community consensus, the ECI is lifting up examples of an economics of compassion in our region, engage Cincinnatians in conversations about these alternatives and continue to teach about the principles behind them.
Among key partners of ECI is CiNBA , which grew out of Xavier and Neighborhood Economics is another partner of ECI.
For more information on ECI, or to be added to our newsletter list, please sent an email to:

John Quigley began his pastoral and preaching ministry in 1974 as co-leader with Richard Rohr of New Jerusalem Community in Cincinnati, Ohio. In 1979-81 he studied the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius Loyola with the Jesuits of Milford, Ohio and during his time in North America conducted numerous parish renewals, conferences and days of recollection. While in Geneva, Switzerland (1998-2009) he preached frequently at the local Roman Catholic and Anglican parishes. For 28 years he has preached an annual retreat at Maggie Valley, North Carolina for groups that are mostly Roman Catholic, religious women and lay couples.

Saturday, August 27, 2016

Minneapolis: Mayor Hodges Is Blaming Trump Supporter Assault Victims ?


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Report: Trump Cancelled Planned Rally in Minneapolis Over Concerns About Violent Liberal Protesters

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump was in Minneapolis Friday night for a fundraiser held at the city’s convention city that was besieged outside by violent liberal protesters.
Trump supporters attending the rally were punched, spit on and robbed while Trump’s Secret Service motorcade was blocked by protesters who jumped on one of the vehicles.

Mayor Hodges Is Blaming Trump Supporter Assault Victims (WCCO) 
— Minnesota’s Republican Party accused Minneapolis’ mayor Wednesday of blaming the victims of a protest that turned ugly.

Donald Trump supporters say demonstrators pushed and shoved them outside a fundraiser at the Minneapolis Convention Center last week.
When top Republicans questioned the police response, DFL Mayor Betsy Hodges said some attendees did not use available escorts.

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Morning Prayer...

Pray with your family in the morning. Even if you only have time for an abbreviated version. 
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Thursday, August 25, 2016

The Wicket Gate

Wickets are typically small, narrow doors either alongside or within a larger castle or city gate. The latter were often double gates, large and heavy, designed to allow the passage of wagons, coaches and horsemen. The purpose of wickets was to avoid the risk of having to open the main gates to the castle or city for just one or two individuals on foot. Because the wicket was only one person wide, it only allowed entry one at a time and enabled the guards to better control access.

Monday, August 15, 2016

Antagonists in the Church: Leadership issues

Sooner or later, as a leader of a coven or within the religious community, 
you will encounter a phenomenon that saps the joy and zeal 
from the most dedicated spiritual person.  
It is the phenomenon that burns out the brightest fires in our community 
and drives thousands of our numbers into solitary practice.  

What not to do !!!

Please read this post.
Keep this question in mind:

What happens when a Pastor, such as Mr. Haugk, decides they don't want to follow the teaching of Christ, outlined below ?

What happens if, by their actions, they cause others, even children, 
to follow their example ?
Are they liable ?

At that time the disciples approached Jesus and said, “Who is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven?” He called a child over, placed it in their midst, and said, “Amen, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven. And whoever receives one child such as this in My Name receives me.

Temptations to Sin.
“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

What not to do !!!


We are posting this link so that it is easily accessible for those we are having a discussion with about a man named Kenneth C. Haugk, and his organization 
known as Stephen Ministries.

Below is some information about Mr. Haugk. 
We are opposed to his ideas of shutting someone out. Ignoring someone goes against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ, who taught:

A Brother Who Sins. “If your brother sins [against you], go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell the Church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.

The Golden Rule.“Do to others whatever you would have them do to you.
This is the law and the prophets.

After the multiplication of the loaves, you can read in John:
Those present with our Lord were told, in Charity, the Truth. They were unable to accept it...

As a result of this, many [of] his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him. Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?” Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life."

What not to do !!!
13. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” 
Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. 
Go after people and not institutions; 
people hurt faster than institutions.

The bottom line is, follow the teachings of Jesus.
Don't be so egotistical to believe you are above the teaching of our Lord.
If things don't work out, you know that Christ won't hold you responsible; Judas ignored Him.
Remember, HE came to set the world on FIRE.
HE came to put family members at odds with each other.
HE came to bring the debate.
Don't run away from it.
Pick it up. 
for I Myself shall give you wisdom in speaking that all your adversaries will be powerless to resist or refute. You will even be handed over by parents, brothers, relatives, and friends, and they will put some of you to death you will be hated by all because of My Name, but not a hair on your head will be destroyed. 
By your perseverance you will secure your lives.

Embrace the Cross.

Please click HERE to read more of this book on-line.
Please click the pages below to make the picture readable.
The link directly below is the information about Mr. Haugk.

Kenneth Haugk - Stephen Ministries - Catholics ......................... Abortion, Homosexuality and Women Priests

Again, we do not think that the procedure, described below, is the way to treat anyone.

Stephen Ministries 
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Pastor: Fr. Don West
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Pastor: Fr. Geoff Drew

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